Well found out eventually.. So on brushed motors the higher the T value the lower the revs and higher the torque. So on that I'm going for a T27 see if that works

A 80 turn is the slowest at 5,500 rpm on 7.2 volts ( unloaded). If using a 60mm 3 blade prop and a 50mm 4 blade prop.
ESC a Quicrun 60Amp with just straight forward/ reverse.